Episode Transcript
Speaker 0 00:00 Or episode of digital detox secrets. So I'm happy to have a special guest here that I've actually known for a very long time. And his name is Dr. Paul Savage. Hey Paul, how are you? I'm good, Lisa. Thank you. Good. Well thanks for joining us. So I wanted to have you on this episode to talk about and kind of walk us through the state of health, um, and, and how it kind of relates to the era that we're living in, um, with the digital world. And we're kind of on this always on 24, seven multiple screens in front of us. Um, everybody's trying to be as healthy as possible, but is it really working? What does it look like from your end and, and you're not just an everyday doctor. So tell us a little bit about how, what you specialize in and how you're Def different from your average family physician. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:51 Well, first of all, um, thank you for having me. And yes, I've been a doctor now for 30 years. It's hard to believe that. Uh, for the first 10 years of my career, I was the nighttime manager of the largest trauma center in the country in Detroit, Michigan. And that was a very stressful job. And I was in my early, you know, early to mid twenties and for about 10 years I was working the night shift. I was overstressed under sleeping, drinking, not eating well, smoking cigarettes like all the ER doctors do. And by the age of 35 I was 284 pounds. I had high cholesterol, heart disease, prediabetic, low thyroid, obesity, and all sorts of depression going on. And that's when my doctor wanted to put me on the seventh medication. I realized that I needed to do something different so I was going to go out and do what I knew I needed to do to get was, which was to get healthy.
Speaker 1 01:42 What I didn't know at the time was all the amount of information I didn't know about what it meant to get healthy. So that started a journey for the last 20 years of building a knowledge base in which I can share with other physicians and I, we built over a hundred centers together, you and I. Then we went out and built a software company for this industry, so I've been very critical in this, in this industry, but what it is, it's called integrative medicine. So what we're doing is we're taking the best of traditional medicine with all the medications that we need to use, but realizing that we don't want to use them forever and we want to limit them as much as we can and combining it with all the other things and health such as nutrition and such as exercise and stress management and sleep management and detoxification and all these things that we've kind of gotten away from not on, not on our own fault.
Speaker 1 02:34 It's just the way the environment has changed and how we change the environment and how we no longer recognizing all the different things that we need to do to stay healthy. The interesting thing is when people come in to see us that first time, now they may look pretty good and they're like, Hey, I'm eating great. But actually we started getting into it and we realize that there are a lot of holes in the nutritional program. There may be a lot of holes in their exercise program. Everybody has that. They're under misconceptions about what's good for them, what's not good for them, what you're supposed to do, what you're not supposed to do. And the amount of misinformation out there is formidable because that misinformation that we're surrounded by all the time leads people down what we call all these health dead ends that ends up getting them either not better or actually even worse. And those, that's probably the more typical, uh, reasons that people come in to see us.
Speaker 0 03:24 So I've learned so much from you working with you over the past, you know, almost more than 15 years. Um, and I really, before I met, you did not know the key, the connection between hormones and health and, and how all these things factor in. And it's really, I think for the majority of us, even today, I mean it's, it's become a little bit more mainstream, but the majority of us out there, maybe they don't, they're not as knowledgeable or you know, doesn't, they don't, they're not educated by their, the average doctor on the connection of hormones and, and what that can mean and balancing the hormones.
Speaker 1 03:59 Right. So that's, that's just one of the little widgets that you have to do in an overall whole health. Um, and if we're starting with hormones, this is something I've been touting and being an evangelist for, for over 20 years is that hormones are essential to help. Basically, if you think of the body, we always have two things going on in their body. We have a group of hormones that want to build this up and a group of hormones that want to tear us down and we're rowing up. You know, when we're a young spot and growing into an adolescent to a mature adult, we're certainly more on the anabolic side. That's what you call the hormones that build you up and not so high on the catabolic side, which is the hormones break you down. Now you need to have a balance between the two because a healthy environment in the human being is old tissue getting torn down, new tissue being laid down and that kind of that cycle, that flow keeps going on and on for years.
Speaker 1 04:51 What we don't realize and what we found to appreciate as physicians that as men reach middle age and women meet, reach middle age, the amount of hormones that build us up start tapering it off and women, we call that perimenopause and menopause cause that's when they start losing their essential anabolic hormones such as their estrogens and their testosterone. One of the things I always quiz women about is which hormone do you have more of when you're 25 estrogen or testosterone? Almost universally they always say estrogen when in fact they have molecule per molecule, 10 times more testosterone. Then they have estrogen. Men, on the other hand have to have 400 times more testosterone to estrogen to become male, but men also start losing their hormones around middle age as well. So we've known about menopause since early times. I mean the first recorded case of menopause treatment was in the early Greek culture.
Speaker 1 05:45 They didn't treat it well, but they recognize that things were going on with the hormonal changes and when the hormones decline, the ones that build you out, that's why you become a little old lady because as you age, the hormones decline, but it's because the hormones decline that you physically age. So what we've determined now and found in research is coming out much more prolific than it was even 10 years ago. What we're finding is we are in fact right that hormones are effective in maintaining health and wellness as you enter the second half of your life. For men, it's been more of a, it's interesting that the women were leading the charge on their, their hormones since the late nineties since the late eighties early nineties men. However, we only started recognizing the episodes of testosterone declining only basically getting more mainstream about five years ago. And you've heard me preaching about testosterone for over 20 now.
Speaker 1 06:40 The one thing about testosterone, when you start comparing a man who's 40 year old today to a 40 year old 40 years ago, the man hat today has about half the testosterone levels of a man who was 40 40 years ago. And so the interesting thing is why is that happening? Well it's very interesting. Everything that you do healthy for yourself and this is for men and for women. Increase your anabolic hormones and decrease your catabolic or the breakdown hormones. But the, so what the problem is is this is another casualty, the male testosterone level. It's another casualty of the environment which has changed. We are working more, we are relaxing less. We are, we are. We are awake more. We are sleeping less, we are eating more and eating less healthy. We have all these determinants and that environment is certainly more toxic than it was even 20 years ago.
Speaker 1 07:33 It's wonderful that we're starting to see research now just like last week where it's so it shows that there is no amount of alcohol, which is good for you. And I've been saying that for 20 years. Um, and recently they also came out with the fact that there is a lot of heavy metals. Now copper not only let in mercury, but copper and selenium that are in the environment, which, which are not helping to any degree because it causes oxidation, heart disease and strokes. Again, this is something we've been talking about in integrated medicine about maintaining a toxic free environment. So when we're talking about hormones, it is critical to realize that everybody needs hormones at a certain point in their life because no one goes into the last quarter of their life with healthy hormone levels. The interesting thing is as we propose over 15 years ago in a paper that what we're seeing is a window of opportunity that if you give the hormones earlier on so that you maintain the healthy tissues, you have a lot less complications on the backside.
Speaker 1 08:31 So just to clarify, when you say we need hormones, we need to supplement what we physically already have at a certain point. That's correct. Or we need to do things that improve your own levels as long as we can. But at some point, everybody does need to supplement with hormones. Many times people come in in their thirties and 35 or even forties and men or women and they have hormone imbalance. That's right. They come to see us because they think their hormones are balanced and they are. But the reason they're out balanced is because of lifestyle changes that they're not implementing. They're eating too many trans fats, they're eating too many sugars, they're not exercising, they're overweight, they're not getting enough sleep. I mean, all of these things, negative may impact your hormone balance. So your hormone balance is actually reflecting your poor lifestyle. So is it safe to say that you can optimize your hormones by having a healthier lifestyle?
Speaker 1 09:20 Absolutely. That's exactly what they do. Because when you're telling your body you want to be healthy, your body's going out and producing more than the things that keep you healthy. I mean, the interesting thing that we people fail to recognize so often is they think the hormones are driving the bus when actuality your driving the bus the majority of the time. Now even in the best scenario for women and men, eventually the tissues that produced the hormones degrade at about one to 2% per year and somewhere down the road you're going to fall below this level and needing hormone replacement. People say, well what's that level? And I tell people as a mathematician, it depends. It's not based on a certain level. It's based on what percentage of hormones do you have now compared to what percentage you had back then. For example, men have a testosterone level that's healthy somewhere between six and 1100 what we call nanograms per deciliter.
Speaker 1 10:11 Now, if you are a guy in your twenties and you had an 1100 and now you're guy your 40 you have a 600 you're going to feel the difference cause that's almost 50% drop in your testosterone. However, if you were a guy in your 20s and you had a level of 700 and now in your forties you have level of 600 you're not going to feel it necessarily as much. So there is, and there's more things that play into this with toxicology, um, including sugars, which is the most toxic of all things that we have in the universe. All of these things can be a medicine. So even when we're treating people with hormone replacement, we want to make sure that we optimize the other things because it's like the wheels on a bus. You want all the wheels moving at the same time. If you just have one wheel moving, let's say for example, you're eating well, but you're not sleeping while you're not exercising, your hormones are outbound with your toxic, all the BS.
Speaker 1 10:59 You're not going to go very far with one wheelchair. These things are synergistic manner back there, cumulative and additive. You start doing all things in together and you just don't get a factor of one or two. You get a factor of 10 or 20 changes. But it's important to be doing all these things at the same time. So thank you for that. So what do you think now these screens that we're all, you know, we ha I have multiple screens in front of us. What does that do to our stress levels and stress hormones? What are you seeing with your patients? Well that depends on which portion of your, now remember the younger, the younger the client, the more we're seeing them with what we call the digital toxicity, which is they're basically on their phones all the time. Even though we see a lot of that, even more so in the forties but in the sixties and seventies they haven't necessarily adopted that technology.
Speaker 1 11:43 But Jeff, I'm so, we were seeing different effects of this at different times. I think we're in a kind of unique era because we have some groups that are in their forties we've been at it for 10 years and some groups in their teens who've been on it for their entire life. So maybe walk us through each, um, generation. So let's start with boomers and then go down to X, Y, Z. The effect that we've <inaudible> we want to be careful of is that in the developing brain in the younger, the younger clients don't develop, the brain doesn't develop its imaginary creative side nearly as much on the phone as when they're immersed in their environment. The environment is still way more entertaining and you have to process a lot more information about your environment. When you're looking up, then you are looking at what somebody wants you see on the phone because doing Texas answer emails, playing games, uh, Instagram, all of these things that the brain doesn't grow very much developmentally on these limited programs, interacting with people, learning emotional intelligence, seeing how the life work.
Speaker 1 12:47 These are not things that you can learn from a phone and when you're not paying attention to your environment, you're really, what we're seeing is we're seeing stunted emotional development. There's a good amount of evidence that I think is growing that a lot of the situation we have currently in the environment, a political environment, the country, it has to do with a lot of retarded emotional growth and people who are now so emotion, social media and their phones, that they're not learning how to interact with each other in real time because it's a lot, it's a lot different social interaction when you're on the internet saying something about somebody else. And another thing saying it to their face or saying it to another person, it's, it's so totally different that we start missing those social cues and we start getting socially inept and emotionally immature.
Speaker 1 13:33 What we're seeing in the older pipe, you know, as you get older now, these people may have not had, like my generation, I'm almost 60 now. We didn't have cell phones until we were in our twenties, and we didn't have Facebook until we were in our late forties, early fifties. Um, so we already had some of these skills developed. But what we're finding for these people is their growth is retiring because these social, these social, um, uh, habits, these social cues that were used to have to keep getting reinforced, reinforced all the time. Otherwise we start slipping into new behaviors. Cause if we're seeing these people in their forties and 50s using social media, they're becoming less able than they used to be. So they get it back faster, but they can also lose it relatively easy. Um, so we're starting to see, one of the things about the social media intent is not only is it very dangerous for walking across the street, dropping in potholes, we've all seen the videos of people walking into manholes and presenting, which is horribly, uh, are getting in the car. Accidents that come from texting while you're driving. This is putting us at risk with very little effect that it's improving our life. We're actually starting to see a decline in life simply from social media interactions itself because there isn't a prolongation necessarily. We're still certainly seeing the deficits side of social media or interacting with these mobile devices.
Speaker 0 14:54 So when I was visiting you in Chicago at your office, um, we were chatting and you brought up to me the topic of inflammation and that you, you know, tell, tell us, share us the inflammation, what we should know about it and how it's impacting all of us.
Speaker 1 15:12 Sure. Well, it's interesting again, um, when you're looking at the body, you're looking at hormones and hormones are influenced by inflammation and inflammation is influenced by hormone. Again, everything works together in the same way you're doing all this stuff. You know, you need to do well for yourself. You're going to be very healthy. If you're not doing everything together well, you're not going to be necessarily as healthy. And when you're doing something really wrong, you're going to be very unhealthy. So inflammation by definition is the body's reaction to whatever's not you. So for example, if you interact, interact with a food that is not you, you're going to have some level of inflammation that starts. If you get traumatized or your skin gets injured, you're going to have breakdown in vessels and that trauma because it's like an allergen or, or like inflammation caused by an injury that sets off a bunch of, uh, cascades of what we call cytokines, which are inflammatory agents that say, come help me here, I'm under attack.
Speaker 1 16:07 So it's kind kinda like an army that your body has able to mobilize in a moment's entrance interests the, and that's necessary for life because if you, you know, if you get infected, you need to be able to fight off that infection. You need to be able to make sure that you're not eating crudes, which are what you are allergic to, cause they're deadly to you. So all these things are clues for the body and as well as the therapy for the body of getting over these things. However, and here's the big, however, we never used to have inflammation going on all the time. It used to be out, I got hit in plane, Oh, I ate something, it got inflamed. It this, this, this wonderful system that we have, which protects and rebuilds and regrows for us. All the things that are damaged can now be turned on all the time.
Speaker 1 16:52 And when you now this healing flame becomes a infernal of damage because it starts burning everything. Because we are a combustion engine. We eat food, we burned food. And that lets off oxygen, water and vibe and energy. So we do combustion energy. And that is also a form of inflammation. So by what I always tell people is inflammation is the hallmark of everything bad that's going to happen to you over time because inflammation is going to pick out your DNA wherever you're the weakest and it's going to attack it there. So where just we know about connection between asthma, we know connections between Alzheimer's, heart disease, and even cancer is becoming much more, uh, understood in the terms of looking at inflammation. So when we're talking to clients about maintaining health, one of the things we're always monitoring is what is your inflammation? And there's many ways that you can check inflammation rates, whether it's blood test or there's um, different, different physiological tests that you can make sure to see where your inflammation level is. The lower your inflammation level, the longer you're going to live, the lower your inflammation level, the healthier you will be.
Speaker 0 18:02 Okay. So, um, just for our guests that might be joining us live, feel free. I'm going to reserve the last few minutes to take any questions in the comments for Dr. Savage to answer live. Um, but in the meantime, so I'm just going to kind of go through a couple of different, like quick, you know, categories and if you could just give, what is your, you know, most actionable tip that somebody could take right now. So let's just start with, I hope you're a set with nutrition nutrition. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1 18:29 As I tell clients all the time, nutrition is 70% of your health. It's actually the medicine that you give yourself all day long. And the jury is in and the jury has been in for over 20 years. The best nutritional plan is a key, what we call a ketogenic, and it used to be called paleo. It used to be called Atkins part three. It's been renamed so many times that I've been in practice that I've lost count of all the different names. Essentially it means eating a lot of colored vegetables, eating a reasonable amount of protein and eating a lot of good, saturated and unsaturated fat both, and that includes things like olives and nuts and artichokes and avocados and coconut oil and MCT oil that fish oil. Any fish with good oils and go ahead and eat the, go ahead and eat the beef with as long as it's pasteurized because the problem isn't that beef is problematic.
Speaker 1 19:20 The problem is how we make the beef nowadays, so everything needs to be as organic and as close to farm to table as is possible. If you're going to spend your money anywhere, spend it on your nutrition. I have a model here in the office. It doesn't matter why you come to see me, whether it's for Alzheimer's, hormone imbalance, menopause, cancer. If you eat better, you'll feel better and you'll get better. The other thing about what the is how often to eat. Jury's always been in intermittent intermittent fasting. In other words, you're eating too much, too often of all the wrong stuff, so eat less often, eat less amount. Matter of fact, I myself or over 15 years have eaten once a day. I usually eat about four o'clock in the afternoon and it usually starts out with a two quart salad bowl with olives and nuts and olive oils and dressing, and I eat that for about 45 minutes. And then last night we had some steak or we had the night before that we had some salmon night. Before that we had pizza checking. Now that's a very healthy diet. I probably eat somewhere between 900 1100 calories a day. I used to be 300 pounds with a 300 level cholesterol and heart disease. I'm now about on 90 pounds. I have a cholesterol of one 30 and my heart disease is essentially gone.
Speaker 0 20:32 So doesn't that contradict? I mean, that's amazing. That's congratulations, that's your, you know, some inspiration to everybody, but doesn't that contradict like I always hear eats five small meals a day, you know, who came up with that craft because craft makes
Speaker 1 20:48 the snack foods and they wanted you to eat five times a day and they knew you'd have breakfast, lunch, and dinner. So this was a marketing campaign who I heard from their marketing VP. Tell me directly that that was a reason that they came up with that idea that it's better off the five small meals a day because eating breakfast, lunch and dinner, that gives you time for two snacks and crafted snack people. Okay, that's pretty crappy. The other thing that came out in the, in the fifties was breakfast is the most important meal of the day. Now that's been proven for children, but it's been disproven for adults because children are just growing machines. They need to eat all the time. So eating a kid is different opinion at all. But as an adult, breakfast is no longer needed.
Speaker 0 21:28 So when you're on the um, the keto diet that you're recommending, um, a portion of it is the good fats, right? Is there, is it possible to eat too many, too much good fat in one day?
Speaker 1 21:37 It is absolutely because again, it's what you eat, how much you eat and is it processed or not. So or when you eat, how much you eat and not have and what you eat, make sure it's not processed. Absolutely you can eat too much fat, you can eat too much vegetables and get obese. I mean, so anything can happen if they eat too much properly. I tell people all the time what we, one thing we do know in medicine, and this is a proven fact that no physician will dispute because a lot of the facts of medicine asking the physician, you'll get a different answer. But this one, everybody agrees on. The one thing we know about longevity, about living a long life is the less that you eat, the longer you live and you almost never get chronic diseases associated with aging. Okay. I have a question on this. I'm going to put it up on the screen so I'm,
Speaker 0 22:31 we can't see who it's from, but one of our viewers are saying, I worked with a bodybuilder and the first thing he told me was that I wasn't eating enough. He had me eating six meals a day. Is it possible to build muscle being on an intermittent fasting diet?
Speaker 1 22:42 Absolutely. Now, here's now, here's, and I have many body builders who I work with. They've come into this knowledge that everybody needs to be beefy and huge and actuality the people that belongs with the fewest diseases are relatively lean. I mean, they're built, but they're not muscular, huge body builders. The more those people have a shorter life span, the larger the body frame is the mass, the shorter the lifespan. I asked people all the time, show me an 80 year old bodybuilder. That's 225 pounds. Show me what I dairy anybody, because they don't exist. They die from other complications. The best physiologic level for a man is 12 to 15% body fat and a relatively lean mass body. So if and body builders, they want you to build muscle because that's where they make their living yet building muscle. Now that may be good if you're petite, you need to put down some muscles, but this whole idea of becoming bulky bodybuilders is not healthy for you, so there's no health benefit to that.
Speaker 1 23:41 There is no health benefits for this. You can certainly build muscle. We have patients do it all the time. If you're eating the right thing, if you're exercising, getting plenty of sleep and your hormones are balanced, you will put on muscle take long to do so. If you have those four things going on. The problem is a lot of times people are eating all this protein and they're lifting weights, but they don't have the antibiotics like testosterone, both men and women in order to build on the muscle and they're like, I'm not putting on muscle. The other thing is too often they overwork out. We also know that there's a problem with people who are overworking out with debt. That's generally what we call a heavy level activity of exercise for two hours a day, six days a week. They don't put on a lot of muscle at this point because they're burning the muscle as quickly.
Speaker 1 24:24 You gotta let the body heal in order for it to grow. Okay, next topic. Sleep. Sleep is next. Next in nutrition. The single most important thing, even more so than exercise, I tell people in the order of health is always nutrition, sleep and exercise and that order. Um, sleep is something that gets away from us nowadays. Uh, I've seen multiple studies where, um, but the jury's in, people need eight hours of sleep a night period. We know that under eight hours a night you start having health benefits, including heart attacks, stroke, obesity, depression. Everything gets worse as your sleep gets shorter. But not only is it important to have quantity of sleep, it's important to have quality of sleep. And as we get older, a lot of the brain hormones don't work as well. Or we're over stressed and we don't have good stress management that needs, or we're sleeping on a poor bed and there's all these things start getting our way.
Speaker 1 25:15 Or if you're a woman, you start going through hot flashes and menopause and there's all these things that can get in our way. So sleep is a very tricky thing to get ahold of them in most cases, but in almost always, if you're looking at the hormones, the nutrition, stress management exercise, and you start getting these things in alignment. Sleep usually comes in laymen, but it's essential to help. Okay, next topic. Stress, stress. This is something that we did at the American Institute of stress. We've been able to track this for over 60 years and we're seeing it double every decade for the last six decades, which means that at this point we have 30 times to more stress than we did in the 1960s that's impressive. And we're just walking through this dress like in a bother. Me personally, when I was an ER doctor and I worked 12 hour shifts, seven days a week at night at the night shift at the largest dramas that are getting shot at getting beat up all the time.
Speaker 1 26:06 I mean got beat up 12 times in 10 years. The fact is, if you asked me if I was stressed, I'd be like, no, I'm not stressed because I adapted to expect that that's what my day was like, but it was stressful and then that's what we become numb to. The amount of stress that we have. Secondarily, our stress management technique, partly because of our interaction on the social media, we don't learn how to interact with people. You don't alleviate stress by talking to a phone. One stress management tool is a management tool is a hug or a friend who can console you in the physical touch and the smell of their pheromones. These are the things that social genomics we know decrease the amount of stress and helped you adapt better. There are simple things that everybody can do every day that people don't do.
Speaker 1 26:50 Every day. One is just taking 10 minutes and sitting outside, taking some deep breaths and enjoying the sunshine. Another thing would be meditating for 10 minutes and just slowing the brain down because if you slow the brain down for 10 minutes, it takes about six hours of rev back up. If you do it in the morning, in the mid afternoon, your brain is relatively slow all day long. I myself had practiced that for over 10 years and I need to, because I'm a high energy, as you can see through this presentation, I talked fast, I move fast, I get excited about stuff and then I'll have to slow myself down later. And spending time in conjunction with the people that we love is a wonderful way to decrease your stress. When you're looking at the um, blue zone studies, what we see, the number one thing that promotes longevity and long, good, healthy life is how many social friends you have now on social media, how many social friends you have in person.
Speaker 0 27:43 So that brings up an interesting angle. So we interviewed Cameron Harold. He's a bestselling author and specializes in entrepreneurs and working with CEOs and CFOs. And we talked about the little known secret fact that CEOs and entrepreneurs are one of 'em. They suffer from depression, anxiety, and high levels of suicide.
Speaker 1 28:09 Yeah, look at my life. Look at Ilan Musk lately when it's caught about my personal life is a disaster and he's telling the truth.
Speaker 0 28:19 So I'm sure you work with a lot of successful entrepreneurs and what do you, what are you seeing? Because part of our audience are entrepreneurs and even moms who are entrepreneurs of their household. So,
Speaker 1 28:31 so part of our program here is not only balance your hormones, you see our nutritionist, but you may and most commonly you're seeing our life coach and she's coaching you because we've forgotten some of the simple basic things about how to manage stress. We, and we always remind people that accessorizes a great stress mediator sleep is a great stress mediator. Eating wow is a great stress mediator. Taking time to spend with family, taking time to spend with my one actually putting time aside each day, not only to spend with them, but also spend with yourself. You need these social bonds because in the end of life, the only thing really matters is the people you know and the people who knew you back. The real friends. You know, we made a lot of friends in my life. My grandfather told us, friends come and go, but precious, fewer will remain and you need to keep those contact with those people who knew you early on and all throughout your life because that gives you, that is what people judge the meaning of their life by.
Speaker 1 29:28 It's not about how much money they end up with in the bank. It's not necessarily how much they change other people's life because they don't get all that back from those people that they change. What it is is their immediate family. That family that you have or the family you build. That's what brings joy to your life and when you have joy, that makes stress markedly reduced. But unfortunately they're all, everybody's working 18 hours a day and they, they think they enjoy life and then they turn around and they realize that their 17 year old girl, they never even really got to know.
Speaker 0 30:02 It's so true. It's, you know, we have to really be aware and mindful of that. So we're, we're almost out of time and I really appreciate you taking your time with us today. Um, so just some followup questions. So actionable. What do you think about CBD oil and IB therapy?
Speaker 1 30:22 That's not a minute conversation and brief. CBD oil is wonderful as an antiinflammatory and it as, as it decreases anxiety. I am a big fan of CBD. I'm a big fan of THC, which is marijuana. I am not a big fan of alcohol. We've seen 30,000 deaths from alcohol last year we saw zero deaths from marijuana. CBD oil is a derivative of hemp and it comes into the raspberry. It actually gives you also the sedative effects. And in this stressful environment that we have, I love, I often recommend CBD for people who have inflammation or people who have anxiety or people have difficulty falling and staying asleep. Ivy Ivy nutrient therapy that is very effective and people who have certain things in which you need to treat it is absolutely a fact that our nutrition and our food has dropped considerably over the last four decades.
Speaker 1 31:10 And the amount of food that we get, the amount of nutrients that we get in our food is significantly curtailed and in some people to such a degree that gives them physical elements, chronic fatigue, Lyme syndrome, all of these are nutrient deficient immune system involved. Very complex disorders that do improve with Medicaid. With the IB nutrient therapy. Now there's many different things that come through from high dose vitamin C to plaque Rex therapy to NAD therapy to culation therapy to apply the minute my micronutrients, again, they work but not for everybody and have to be well trained and knowing which therapy would be most effective for which client.
Speaker 0 31:49 Perfect. So, and I think that what's important to say is that these CBD oil and IB therapy, for example, are fairly new and they're accessible to everybody, right? I mean it's, it's,
Speaker 1 31:59 well, Ivy therapy has been around for almost 40 years now, 40 or 50 years. So I think that it's not really, a lot of these things have been done mostly by the napper pass and by alternative doctors many, many years. It's only starting now to get more of the attention of the traditional doctors so that we're getting things like the TAC trial, which is the only study that was done on a Senator to look at key nation therapy. But there are many different studies out there on high dose vitamin C, but all of these things that I've been proposing and talking about for 20 years, they're coming to pass. But it takes time because the traditional world, you know, there's not a pharmaceutical pushing these researches on this. So it's a lot of independent people. I'm fortunate enough to have built the largest software company, uh, in the, in the United States integrated medicine.
Speaker 1 32:40 So we're collecting volumes of data on hormones. And supplements and IB therapy, collation therapy, and we've been in a data acquisition mode for about five years now, so we're going to have a lot more information that we're talking to UCLA and we're talking to university of Michigan about actually working with. So it's a very exciting field, but it doesn't, I do not recommend that. I do recommend that patients see an intern and an integrated medicine doctor if they're having any kind of health issues that they would like a different opinion on because it's not necessarily in contrast with what the traditional doctor says. It's very most likely in conjunction and an additive way for them to work with their traditional doctor.
Speaker 0 33:20 Okay. Thank you for that. So we have one question in the comments. What IB treatment do you recommend if you've never done one?
Speaker 1 33:26 I recommend none unless you have a, uh, physician says this is what we're needing to be treated. I mean, you know, there is a lot of people who go get hangover IVs, which are basically just B vitamins, vitamin C, magnesium and a normal sanding solution, which really works very well because what we hit the recent study at three days ago about alcohol coming out, it's not the alcohol at a dentist. His brain is the post effects with the electrolytes in the water that causes brain damage. So yeah, that's a great one. If you're drinking, I tell you don't drink and then you don't need the IB. Um, you know, if you're nutrient deprived and you have a chronic disease, then I think Myers cocktail or even up to what we call it performance Ivy, which is about three to four times nutrients is very useful for getting people who have a gut issue or who have other issues that keep their system from absorbing enough micronutrients. But I can't really recommend say what one do I think everybody needs cause there isn't one. Okay.
Speaker 0 34:19 Thank you for that. So one last question. What if you work in an industry where you're having your phone on you all the time as a large part of your job?
Speaker 1 34:27 One of the things, I mean again, so there is another thing about the electrical radio waves about day, how they may or may not be affecting, uh, the production of cancer on your body. So I tell people all the time, if you can put your phone down and not walk around with it all the time, that's in your best interest. Cause we don't know the answer to that. Do I think that it's probable, um, probable damaging? Yes. Do I, do I know to what degree? No. The reason I say it's probable damaging because it's something that our body has not been exposed to in the past. So likely the body won't know how to defend against it and something negative will come about that in the way of cancer or even they're saying with the depression because of the radio waves up near the phone all the time.
Speaker 1 35:08 So if it's part of your job in the industry, there's really nothing to say. So you know if worst case scenario you get one of those packs, they have some insulation rod that you can put the phone in if you have to carry it around. I tell people all the time, don't walk around with your phone book or your phone in your front pocket. Especially male, female cause that's where your reproductive organs are. And don't always go off and run with it up to your ear because we don't know the effects of this long term. So be cautious. So maybe you speaker phone, speaker phones much better.
Speaker 0 35:35 Yeah. All right, well thank so much Dr. Savage. So we're going to put in the comments, the links to where people can get in touch with you, follow you on Facebook, your website, you're located in Chicago. Do you do any virtual consultations?
Speaker 1 35:48 Well we have a lot of clients come in from all around the country, but because of the way the federal laws are, I need to see them at least once a year in person. If we're doing treatments. I do hold to that, but we have people come and see us once a year and then we treat them via telemedicine. And we're a big role. You know, here we are in this field where we're talking about all the social media and technology, and here we are and in the office to doing a lot of telemedicine conferences because you can't get away from it. It's a question about how do you adapt to it.
Speaker 0 36:18 Is there an age that you recommend to get your benchmark hormone levels tested at? Let's just say if you don't have any, any signs of anything, but
Speaker 1 36:26 I remember, I tell people all the time, your symptoms are more important than your levels. And it may be that your levels are a, at this point in time, and now 30 years from now, it's B and you have symptoms. So you're going to treat until the symptoms go away. Not until you get to a level that you want. So it's not about training levels, it's about treating patients with symptoms. Okay? So when you, when you have the symptoms, that's when you go get your 50, your estrogen level that you need to get rid of your symptoms may not be that what you are when you were 25. So a lot of these people like, I'm ready to turn your hormones back to when you were 25. I said, why would you do that? You don't know what they were at 25. And even if you did, it's probably not healthy for this environment that you're living now because many of the other wheels on the bus have changed as well. The whole point is getting all the, all the wheels working in harmony at a level that brings back optimization of health and wellness. You know that because if people come in all the time saying, I feel great. Okay, so we've accomplished what we wanted to do.
Speaker 0 37:25 Well thank you for sharing all the ways to optimize our health and um, if anybody has any questions, put them in the comments. Dr. Savage is now part of our private Facebook group. If maybe he can jump on and answer any questions later. But thank you so much and
Speaker 1 37:40 we have a lot more conversations. I'd like to share with your audience, or anytime you'd like to have more interviews, let's get some more information out to your clients.
Speaker 0 37:46 Okay, perfect. Okay. Thank you so much. Have a wonderful day, everybody.
Speaker 1 37:50 You too. Thanks so much.
